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Should we allow questions about social deduction games on RPG Codidact?

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We recently received a question about The Resistance, which is a social deduction game similar to Mafia.

From the most upvoted answer defining the scope of this community,

The idea would be to include all games that are "role-playing" in style, with the main criterion that it be human-mediated as to what happens next in the story. If the mediation is a group effort (as in "GM-less" RPGs) that would be fine, as long as it's not strictly rules-based (as in a board or card game).

Now, in social deduction games you technically are playing a role, but often trying to hide it. There is usually no Game Master, and the rules are very strict on exactly what happens next in the game, but it is true that the discussions between players could go anywhere based on the mix of their reasonings. Should we allow questions about social deduction games on RPG Codidact?

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posted about 3 years ago
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No. Social deduction games are too similar to board games.

In the board game Clue (Cluedo outside the US) you are also technically playing a role, and based on a variety of reasoning, logic and probability there are a wide variety of ways the game can go. This is not a qualification to be considered a "role-playing" game. It's strictly rules based with no way to deviate from the constraints of the game system. You can't start killing off the other players before they get close to solving the mystery, for instance.

Mafia, Werewolf, The Resistance and similar social deduction games belong firmly in the board/card game category.

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"...and based on a variety of reasoning, logic and probability there are a wide variety of ways the g... (3 comments)
"...and based on a variety of reasoning, logic and probability there are a wide variety of ways the g...
MissMulan‭ wrote about 3 years ago · edited about 3 years ago
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"...and based on a variety of reasoning, logic and probability there are a wide variety of ways the game can go.This is not a qualification to be considered a "role-playing" game."But reasoning and logic is what makes us human and despite the fixed rules of the game , the choices of individual player contributes to the evolution of the game.(-1)

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That is true, but it does not make this type of game a role playing game. There's no element of players working together to tell/craft a shared story. There's only extremely limited imagination about each player's character. Nobody is setting a stage. You seem to be making the leap that because there are "roles", then it is a "role-playing" game. That is very far from what role-playing games are about.

Cereal Nommer‭ wrote about 3 years ago · edited about 3 years ago
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MissMulan‭ There is a Banker role in Monopoly, and player choices and social interaction can change the game dynamic drastically when negotiating property trades, yet it's clearly a board game.

Reason and logic, and the choices of individual players is the entirety of a game of chess, but despite players controlling characters such as knights, bishops, kings and queens we don't consider chess a role-playing game.

You also clearly have a bias against this answer, since you posted the out of scope question that prompted this one in the first place. If you'd like to dispute my answer, I think it would be more productive to post another one refuting it rather than try to argue against it in the comments.