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What does «GM mystery cult» mean and where does it come from?

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As far as I understand, the term is sporadically used in the indie community or former Forge diaspora. I searched for it in the Forge archives, but got no hits.

What is the source of the term and is there a clear definition?

My current understanding is that it refers to the game master not being open about their methdology for running the game; whether they have a plot railroad or not, what they improvise versus have prepared, whether they fudge or not; and generally the social expectation that these are secrets the game master should keep.

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A "mystery cult" is an anthropological term for a religion which keeps some items of faith (and usually practice) secret, known only to those who are selectively initiated into the religion. The term originally rose to describe Greek cults which, rather than openly and generally worshipping the complete Pantheon, secretly held rituals to worship specific gods or persons raised to divine status.

There are any number of religions which have held special information for the use of the inner members, as a matter of special privilege and enlightenment. For example, the Church of Scientology is known to have the outer church, where members take classes, are audited, and eventually graduate to the status of Clear; and an inner church and a militant church (the Sea Organization) which is taught the secrets of becoming an Operating Thetan and how Xenu brought souls to Earth.

In this specific instance, the usage is much less serious: it is an analogy about the difference between "mere" players and new GMs, and experienced GMs who actively discuss the ways and means of running games.

Compare and contrast SMOFs, the Secret Masters of Fandom, who run SF conventions.

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An interesting perspective to consider it as a religious mystery cult. Can you cite uses of the term ... (3 comments)
An interesting perspective to consider it as a religious mystery cult. Can you cite uses of the term ...
tommi‭ wrote almost 2 years ago

An interesting perspective to consider it as a religious mystery cult. Can you cite uses of the term that correspond to this to improve the answer? I have mostly seen pejorative usage, and would myself use it in a negative sense.

dsr‭ wrote almost 2 years ago

"Mystery cult" is the neutral anthropological descriptive term that college students (a noted population of RPG players) would easily use. Nearly everyone who encounters a mystery cult in a real-world context will be a member of a competing religion or a skeptic, and thus view it negatively.

Modern(ish) mystery cults include the Freemasons and related fraternal societies, the ha-ha-only-serious Erisian and Discordian religions, and, in popular entertainment, the Sith.

tommi‭ wrote almost 2 years ago · edited almost 2 years ago

Yeah, but can you support this interpretation of «GM mystery cult» in rpg discourse with examples from actual discussions? It is certainly a possibility, but I wonder if that is how it is actually used. It would elevate the answer from a nice idea to one supported with evidence.